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John Carter vs. The Avengers SMACKDOWN

With the impending release of JOHN CARTER on DVD, and THE AVENGERS breaking records at the box office, it is past time to compare and contrast these two latest Disney/Buena Vista movies.

Evil Nemesis
Matai Shang
(Mark Strong)
(Tom Hiddleston)
Loki already had his butt kicked once, why bring him back as a villain when the Marvel world has so many other villains to play with? They both have cool toys/weapons and a unpredictable ability to travel between worlds. Hiddleston was in Warhorse; Mark Strong was Sinestro in Green Lantern, if that counts.
Cute Animal Sidekick
The Hulk
Seriously, who would want to be licked by the Hulk?
Femme Fatale
Dejah Thoris
(Lynn Collins)
Black Widow
(Scarlett Johansson)
Dejah has a sword and is a scientist.

Natasha has two pistols and an awesome roundhouse.

Both ladies are welcomed to come to our house to compare and contrast these movies in a purely intellectual setting (heh).
It ain't easy being Green
Tars Tarkas
(Willem Dafoe)
The Hulk
(Mark Ruffalo)
Tars is taller, has more arms and tusks.

Hulk is Hulk.

Green is the new Black.
Prequel MoviesZero (Tarzan doesn't count)

For background on Barsoom and John Carter, see my John Carter Primer on You Tube
- Iron Man
- Iron Man 2
- Thor
- Captain America
(the two crappy Hulk movies don't count)
John Carter is the first in the series.

The Avengers was setup by Iron Man (1 and 2), Thor and Captain America, and it survived the first two Hulk movies (though Ed Norton was not bad, Ruffalo OWNED the HULK).
Director's Previous MoviesWALL-E, Finding Nemo, Toy Story 2 and 3 (Andrew Stanton)Thor, Serenity (Josh Whedon)Interestingly, Whedon and Stanton were both writers on Toy Story 1. Knew there was a connection somewhere.
Edgar Rice Burroughs
(Daryl Sabara)
Nick Fury
(Samuel L. Jackson)
Spy Kids vs. Pulp Fiction.

Would like to have seen more ERB, enjoyed Sabara's characterization of him.

Will see LOTS more of Fury, Samuel L. has signed on to play him forever, even on coffee mugs.
Viewer Age Demographic50-1000-50With The Princess of Mars debuting 100 years ago, and its two sequels just after, the John Carter story and its supporters have been around the block a time or two.

The Avengers come out in monthly fashion, either in their own comic books or together, and some cartoon replays, catering to a much younger generation.
Current Box Office (as of June 1, 2012)$282 million Worldwide

$72 million Domestic (26%)
$210 million Overseas (74%)
$1,312 million Worldwide

$530 million Domestic (40%)
$782 million Overseas (60%)
With a ratio of six Avengers heroes to one John Cater, this revenue mix seems about right.
Probability of SequelCurrently sacrificing chickens to ensure a sequel100%

In Honor of the last day to see “John Carter” in the movies

Once more, my John Carter video primer! Not long until the DVD is available! To help push for a sequel, visit the BackToBarsoom website.


John Carter primer on SFSignal

John Carter primer on SFSignal

My primer on John Carter (to go along with the earlier one on Doc Savage) has bee published on SFSignal.

An excerpt:

With Disney’s trailers and announced March release of the movie John Carter, readers of the books that inspired the movie are at once hopeful and fearful: hopeful that the movie will actually capture the imagination as well as the initial reading of Edgar Rice Burroughs Barsoom series did; fearful that the movie will be an unfaithful adaptation, or, at worst a lemon in the tradition of pulp movie adaptations like the Doc Savage movie.

Though never a large Tarzan fan, I, like many readers my age, tore through the other worlds created by ERB. But Barsoom was always the cornerstone. Here, then, is a Primer on John Carter and the Barsoom series of novels.

SPOILER ALERTS – for those readers who have not read the books and would like to be surprised at the movie plot (which hopefully doesn’t stray to far from the book plot line), this primer is written with the potential spoiler pieces at the end. Feel free to read the Author section. The John Carter section contains a bit of preview, but stay away from the sections below that if you want to go into the movie fresh.


Born September 1, 1875, Edgar Rice Burroughs held numerous non-writing jobs before breaking into the world of print in 1912 (at the tender age of 37). He is better know as the creator of Tarzan, but he also created many other worlds and characters. And the very first one he created was called Under the Moons of Mars, the original name of the story that would be known as A Princess of Mars, the first novel in the Barsoom/John Carter series.

The legend of ERB says that he held a job checking the advertisements in the pulp magazines of the day, and dreamed that he could write on better. This first attempt was one crazy daydream, and contained a fairly fully conceived world within it.

When initially submitting the story to The All Story magazine for publication, he was concerned that its plot was so fantastic that publishers and the public of 1912 would think him quite mad. So he submitted it under the pen name Normal Bean. The publisher presumably thought this was a typo and changed the author’s name to Norman Bean. Thus Barsoom and John Carter were born.

ERB created many more worlds and characters than just Tarzan and the Barsoom of John Carter. He imagined the adventures of David Innes in Pellucidar At the Earth’s CoreCarson(Napier) of VenusThe Land That Time Forgot trilogy; the Moon Maid and others. And the success he had with these inspired the pulp writers of Doc Savage and The Spider, who themselves inspired the science fiction writers that we all know and love.

In all, through 1967 with the release of I Am A Barbarian, ERB published almost 70 books of these worlds and others.

In his later years, ERB spent time in Hawaii, and was living in Honolulu during the bombing of Pearl Harbor. He volunteered to be a war correspondent, and was the oldest one in the Pacific Theater. He died in 1950.


The rest of the article covers John Carter, Barsoom, the rest of the books in the series and a link to other sources.

Read the full article here.

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